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#1 Mayaman

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 10:51 PM



I just spent the last hour racing in F1 2010 with my D-box. I can't really convey into words the awesomeness of this thing. Acceleration, braking, turning, all super enhanced and with the triple screens the immersion is pretty ridiculous.

One thing that not a lot of people know is that it has transducers in it as well that give you the most intense and realistic vibration and sense I've ever had. The buttkicker is a toy compared to this thing. It gave subtle rumble strips, collisions, and deep vibrations so strong that the contents of my stomach were literally moving around.

I goofed around with Flight Simulator X as well and all I can say is this is easily the best video game purchase I've ever made. I'm pretty shocked actually at how good it is because I wasn't expecting this.

OK, feel free to ask questions or as I know some will bag the crap out of the D-box but I'm a believer now. Best money I've spent in a while.

Here is the mount with 3 26" screens.

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And here is the mount with three 46" projection screens. :D, custom G27 pedals with perfect pedal, Nixm clutch, and aluminum housings. Also my modded shifter holder with Fanatec mount. This will be further modded. I have a 7 inch aluminum shifter shaft to replace the stock one.

Project is coming along swimingly. :D

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These are three 46" projection panels that will have Vicuiti 3M projection material. The Vicuiti material is amazing because you can project in direct sunlight with no brightness loss.

I'll have plenty more pictures over the next week. Finishing my projector mount, and a couple of other custom alterations. For those of you who complain about the center strut on the VR3, this rig now is the stiffest I've played in other than my hyperstimulator. I don't think there is a prettier rig, and now its one of the sturdiest, even if by mistake. LOL

Finished pics.

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Edit: Youtube video in action.

Guys wanted to update you. I finally took a video with the camera duct taped to my head. So forgive any crappyness. Also the Camera is far from HD. You will see banding and color shifting. This is not the case when you are playing. Its the fact that the camera can't capture the DLP projectors quickly enough and will show color shifting and banding. just wanted to clear that up in case it scares people from DLP projectors. They are magnificent, the picture an immersion is complete. :D

I duct tape the camera to a hat and used both my fisheye lens and a normal lens so as to give you two perspectives. I'll take more videos of Gran Turismo an PC with head tracking. Hopefully I will get a HD camera soon. Forgive the blurriness.



Let me know if you have any questions.

EDIT: Hello gentlemen, I have bought a D-box platform. I also added dual TH8 shifters with an interface one adaptor to allow them to work with the Fanatec CSR Elite. My D-box sub frame is being constructed and should be here in a few weeks. In the meantime I'm using a pine panel.

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I'm uploading this pic to give some of you an idea of how to make the VR3 steering column rock steady. Not the only way but one of the ways. This is from Dubai.

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Little teaser of some new mods and things to come. Can't show the screen mount yet.

Custom TH8 handbrake with custom leather boot and aluminum handle.
Custom short shift plate for six speeds matching the Fanatec shifter.
Adapted the Fanatec shifter, which IMO is the best shifter knob I've held ever to the TH8. Matches great.

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My custom mount for my button box. Made by Marcus. Thanks Marcus!!! :)
This works beautifully, so comfortable and looks great.

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Made a custom mount for the Fanatec Sequential to match the knob on the TH8. Really solid using the X-CPO mount on the Fanatec aluminum bar for the table clamp. It worked out perfectly since the holes for the both the wheel and the clamp are identical. :D

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I have matching custom leather boots for all three, the handbrake, sequential and H pattern. You can see a couple of them in the pic. They haven't been attached final, they're just placed there for the pic, they will fit much better once I'm done putting the rig back together. The handbrake feels great, I used the brake spring from a set of G27 pedals in a push mode instead of pull and used the core of a rubber ball inside the sprint, it feels almost like a real handbrake as far as pressure.

The short shift plate for the TH8 is just fantastic and can be flipped so reverse is on the other side. It gives nice short snick snick shift, with lots of positive feedback. The Fanatec shifter knob is just fanstastic. You may not like the CSR body, but the shifter is the best one I've ever used, ever. And it looks fantastic with the TH8.

Hope you guys enjoy and I've got a couple other mods down the pipeline. Keep experimenting. :)


update 3/31/12

Hello VR3 owners looking to delete your center support.

Been experimenting with the center support delete. Tried many different things. When I had the triple screen attached to the rig I didn't have to worry about it, since the triple screen was so solid and attached to the rig, there was no need for the center support. But since moving ot Dbox and detaching the triple screens from the rig and attaching them to the floor, I've looked for another solution.

I've tried about 6 different solutions and have come up with one that I think is the best. Ridiculously solid and stays with the form of the rig. I crafted these from 1" steel pipe and used a manual hand bender to get the curves. When you do something like this measure, measure, and measure again. Then measure again and check your angles. I went through 5 pairs before I came up with a set that was perfect.

The attach to the bottom of the wheel deck, curve around your legs and attach again down on the chassis. No flex at all horizontally or vertically. this is my final design for this particular mod. For those who wish to replicate it, the pipe must be 31 inches in length. Any diameter pipe can be used I guess if you have the equipment, but 1" pipe IMO looks best. Not to obtrusive yet super strong and light. Here are a couple of pics after painting. Matches the VR3 finish really closely. I'll be installing these tomorrow. Once my 50" screens arrive I'll take some more pics.

Now if only someone can get me a deal on two Dbox actuators!!! Grrrrrrrrrr.

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update 4/2/12

Check this out. Not 100% in place, still need to bolt down the aluminum ring but its coming together.

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Added a stiffer rubber to the spring inside the handbrake, its really about perfect now. Wish I could add the "clak clak" of a real handbrake but the preassure is great. Can't have everything.

The shifter is AWESOME. I am using the short shift 6+1 I got fabricated from a friend over at GTPlanet. I then lined each gate with a rubber shim. The shifts feel almost real now. I've set the bolt on the shift stiff and loctite the thread, and with the rubber lining on the inside of the gate it feels almost right.

Now onto a couple other goodies. :)

Update 7/1/2012

My modded G27 pedals with Perfect Pedal, and pedal extensions made by me. They feel fantastic.
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My rig in its current state. Please forgive all the dust and debri, I was just finished modded it and there was dust from drilling and sawing of aluminum and MDF.

D-Box 4 actuator system is all set up :D You can see the front actuator just in front of the custom roll cage bars I hand bent to get rid of the center support. In this position the D-box actuators give better feedback and movement than at the front of the rig. the movement is more violent and convincing as well as the transducer effects enhanced.

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You get a good look at the wafer keyboard mount here.
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My homage to Porsche
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/MAYAmaster/cockpit7.jpg

You can see the surround speakers mounted to the projector mount and also under each screen. The surround with the omnipolar speakers is fantastic.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/MAYAmaster/cockpit8.jpg

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An early shot of my custom VisonRacer/Fast Track Sims triple mount.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/MAYAmaster/cockpit12.jpg

Right now I just have to clean up a few things from all the modding and construction. I have pretty much completed the rig with full Fanatec ClubSport wheel, rims, and accessories. As technology advances I'll keep changing the displays. Eventually I want to go for a 220 degree circular display using 4 or 5 projectors. LED projectors continue to advance and I'll use those since the color gamut is identical across the image. I'll update the thread as I add new equipment. :)

Thanks

#2 PAPA

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 02:59 AM

You have been a busy bee :shock:

Looking good, the leather boot over the shifter looks great :idea: I hope vision racer are looking after you with all this modding your doing, some free parts to cut up and try would not go amiss.

Will the BK not vibrate the projectors ? Keep the photos coming ;)

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 06:23 AM

Looking good Wil! Can't wait to race you once your done

#4 Mayaman

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 07:35 AM

Papa, the projector isn't attached to the rig. Its movable independent of the rig, and won't actually be touching it.

I'm hoping some of the stuff the community does is implemented into the next VisionRacer.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 07:51 AM

Triple projectors...cool! :)
Triple 42" screens...nice ;)
But, if I were going all out...I'd just do a single large curved screen made custom for the situation....it would be totally seamless, and much more immersive 8-)

Looks great so far :!:

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 08:03 AM

^^^yeah, working with the 3M rep on that. Haven't decided since this needs to run Forza and 360 doesn't support warping software.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 01:54 PM

Really Nice!

I have a modified VR1. I've got the VR3 arm for the gearbox mounting and you have solved my fanatec gearstick issue! Perfect, ordered the new parts today! Thanks a lot for that one.

..now the thing that drives me nuts with the Vison Racer is the central column (messes with my heel and toe and generally annoying as occasionally miss pedals when using the clutch).
I'm running triple 24" LCD's on mine with a custom mounting solution I've made, that adds loads of rigidity to the VR, so there is next to no flex now.

..However, I'm very interested to know what your design is to remove the central post (on the VR1 it is welded, so I need an angle grinder to remove it, but am planning to do it when I have a final design / idea) but I have sketched a few ideas, but I don't have the manufacturing skills to make them.

I'll post pics when I've installed my gearbox mounting as I think I can actually rival your setup
(Obviously without the massive screens!). I don't have space to do that.

#8 Mayaman

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 02:37 PM

Glad I could help with the Fanatec shifter mount. :)

The central post removal is going to be something I'll have to do once the screen mounts get here. People think the central post is to keep it from moving laterally, but its actually there to keep weight from pulling the post down vertically. Like I said, once the screen mounts are here I'll post more, I can't do anything till I mount the screen pipes.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 03:30 PM

Woohoo Mayaman,

Now that is looking great!

You won't want to go outside once it's finished!

Looking forward to the next update :)

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 01:02 AM

BUMP for update with pics

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 08:37 AM

What can be said about this other than :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

What will you use for sound, headphones or a stand alone 5.1?

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 11:57 AM

I'll be using my wireless Astro A40s and when they are released the Tritton Warhead 7.1s.

Since these projection screens weigh nothing, and are attached with velcro, I also have a 90" single screen for when I'm playing single screen PS3 and Xbox games.

I'll probably move my Mirage Xbox surround sound system to the rig.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 07:45 PM

Really looks great now mate....I'm a bit confused though, where did you get the plates for mounting the Fanatec shifter like that? Did you buy, or make them?

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#14 Mayaman

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:11 PM

I modded the VR3 shifter arm, I placed the plate for the G27 shifter on the shortened arm and then I ordered this excellent mount.

http://shop.x-cpo.com/

I ordered another for my other modded shifter. Its cheap too. Great product.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 05:04 AM

Hi,

This is looking very slick.
As I'm about to copy the shifter mount / solution, can we have some closeup pics of the shifter(s) mounted ?!

So the two main clamps (and no weight on the screens) combined with the triple screen mount are keeping the wheel column in place through much increased rigidity ?!

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 08:20 AM

The triple screen mount attaches at the center column and also on the "wings" on the front bottom of the rig, you can see the red clamps in my pics. This makes it ridiculously strong. The column, being so long is prone to flex and this minimizes it. I've added an additional support, as you can see the small steel bar I've bolted right behind the brake pedal.

I should be done in a week, I have a couple things to decide on, then I'll post detailed "how to"

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 01:10 PM

I have Astro A40's as well and I think they're great. I have several headphones and A40's are among the best bang for the buck. I just ordered the new Creative Sound Blaster Recon 3D mixer. I can't wait to hear how that sounds.

What projectors are you going to use in this setup?
I saw your past post where you said you saw someone on youtube with this setup you are going after and I found those videos and was blown away. No bezel obstruction makes me rethink if I should also go this route instead of thin bezel Samsungs. No bezels at all just looks like it would raise the overall immersion level.

Cant wait to see the final out come when you're done.
Well at least to a point. I think we are never done updating and continuing the search for Nirvana

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 02:11 PM

Yeah the Astro wireless are fantastic.

I'll be using 3 Vivitek Qumi Q2 LED projectors. I set them up last night on their mounts. These things are insanely tiny but the picture they put out is pretty amazing. Bright, clear, and saturated with lots of beautiful color. They fit my application perfectly since a 46" image for these things is super bright. There are people running 90+ inch images with them. Just youtube it.

And yes, I agree. I sent the three Samsung LED slim bezels back. For 3 grand less I picked up the Qumi and found that lining up the edges of the images was cake. And NO BEZELS. :D

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 02:37 PM

Hmmmmm

I'm really interested in this projector set up, can not wait to see it running. Been looking at projectors..... Shhh do not tell the wife.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 02:50 PM

I've added an additional support, as you can see the small steel bar I've bolted right behind the brake pedal. "



Ahhh. I didn't spot that. I was suspicious that the 3 screen mount would be enough. Clever. Like it.
Measuring mine up / planning right now..




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